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 ===== Brennan Manning - greatest cause of atheism =====
 The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians: who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, walk out the door, and deny Him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.
- - Brennan Manning
+- Brennan Manning
 ===== Lee Strobel: the done plan =====
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 - C.S. Lewis
+===== J.M.L. Monsabre: God's wisdom =====
+If God would concede me His omnipotence for 24 hours, you would see how many changes I would make in the world. But if He gave me His wisdom too, I would leave things as they are.
+- J.M.L. Monsabre
 ===== Frank Turek: Truth quest =====
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 - Frank Turek (paraphrased)
-===== JP Moreland: Proof of the resurrection =====
+===== On the resurrection =====
 On proof of the resurrection: It’s the ongoing encounter with the resurrected Christ that happens all over the world, in every culture, to people from all kinds of backgrounds and personalities—well educated and not, rich and poor, thinkers and feelers, men and women. They all will testify that more than any single thing in their lives, Jesus Christ has changed them.
 - JP Moreland
+If the coming into existence of the Nazarenes, a phenomenon undeniably attested by the New Testament, rips a great hole in history, a hole the size and shape of Resurrection, what does the secular historian propose to stop it up with?
+- C. F. D. Moule
 ===== Scientists on Faith and God =====
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 For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.
 -Robert Jastrow, God and the Astronomers
-===== J.M.L. Monsabre: God's wisdom =====
-If God would concede me His omnipotence for 24 hours, you would see how many changes I would make in the world. But if He gave me His wisdom too, I would leave things as they are.
-- J.M.L. Monsabre
 ===== On church =====
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 - Frank Turek (paraphrase)
-===== Not yet classified =====
+===== On Hell =====
-If the coming into existence of the Nazarenes, a phenomenon undeniably attested by the New Testament, rips a great hole in history, a hole the size and shape of Resurrection, what does the secular historian propose to stop it up with?
- - C. F. D. Moule
+In the first place, the Bible says that there are different degrees of punishment, so I’m not sure that it’s the same level of intensity for all people. In the second place, if God took his hands off this fallen world so that there were no restraints on human wickedness, we would make hell. Thus if you allow a whole lot of sinners to live somewhere in a confined place where they’re not doing damage to anyone but themselves, what do you get but hell? There’s a sense in which they’re doing it to themselves, and it’s what they want because they still don’t repent.
+ - Dr. DA Carson (quoted in A Case for Christ by Lee Strobel)
-https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/bonhoeffer-on-abortion
+Men are not in hell because God is angry with them. They are in wrath and darkness because they have done to the light, which infinitely flows forth from God, as that man does to the light who puts out his own eyes.
+ - William Law
+There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell. No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek find. Those who knock it is opened.
+ - C.S. Lewis, The Great Divorce
+===== On Slavery =====
+But you have to keep your eye on Jesus’ mission. Essentially, he did not come to overturn the Roman economic system, which included slavery. He came to free men and women from their sins. And here’s my point: what his message does is transform people so they begin to love God with all their heart, soul, mind, and strength and to love their neighbor as themselves. Naturally, that has an impact on the idea of slavery.
+The overthrowing of slavery, then, is through the transformation of men and women by the gospel rather than through merely changing an economic system. We’ve all seen what can happen when you merely overthrow an economic system and impose a new order. The whole communist dream was to have a ‘revolutionary man’ followed by the ‘new man.’ Trouble is, they never found the ‘new man.’ They got rid of the oppressors of the peasants, but that didn’t mean the peasants were suddenly free—they were just under a new regime of darkness. In the final analysis, if you want lasting change, you’ve got to transform the hearts of human beings. And that was Jesus’ mission.
+ - Dr. DA Carson (quoted in A Case for Christ by Lee Strobel)
+===== On Pain =====
 Pain insists upon being attended to. God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain: it is His megaphone to rouse a deaf world.
 CS Lewis https://www.cslewisinstitute.org/resources/c-s-lewis-on-the-problem-of-pain/
+If you think of this world as a place intended simply for our happiness, you find it quite intolerable: think of it as a place of training and correction and it’s not so bad.
+-C.S. Lewis
+===== Not yet classified =====
+https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/bonhoeffer-on-abortion
 We were made not primarily that we may love God (though we were made for that too) but that God may love us, that we may become objects in which the Divine love may rest 'well pleased'.
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-If you think of this world as a place intended simply for our happiness, you find it quite intolerable: think of it as a place of training and correction and it’s not so bad.
--C.S. Lewis
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 - Ruth Chou Simmons
-Hell
-In the first place, the Bible says that there are different degrees of punishment, so I’m not sure that it’s the same level of intensity for all people. In the second place, if God took his hands off this fallen world so that there were no restraints on human wickedness, we would make hell. Thus if you allow a whole lot of sinners to live somewhere in a confined place where they’re not doing damage to anyone but themselves, what do you get but hell? There’s a sense in which they’re doing it to themselves, and it’s what they want because they still don’t repent.
- - Dr. DA Carson (quoted in A Case for Christ by Lee Strobel)
-Men are not in hell because God is angry with them. They are in wrath and darkness because they have done to the light, which infinitely flows forth from God, as that man does to the light who puts out his own eyes.
- - William Law
-There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell. No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek find. Those who knock it is opened.
- - C.S. Lewis, The Great Divorce
-Slavery
-But you have to keep your eye on Jesus’ mission. Essentially, he did not come to overturn the Roman economic system, which included slavery. He came to free men and women from their sins. And here’s my point: what his message does is transform people so they begin to love God with all their heart, soul, mind, and strength and to love their neighbor as themselves. Naturally, that has an impact on the idea of slavery.
-The overthrowing of slavery, then, is through the transformation of men and women by the gospel rather than through merely changing an economic system. We’ve all seen what can happen when you merely overthrow an economic system and impose a new order. The whole communist dream was to have a ‘revolutionary man’ followed by the ‘new man.’ Trouble is, they never found the ‘new man.’ They got rid of the oppressors of the peasants, but that didn’t mean the peasants were suddenly free—they were just under a new regime of darkness. In the final analysis, if you want lasting change, you’ve got to transform the hearts of human beings. And that was Jesus’ mission.
- - Dr. DA Carson (quoted in A Case for Christ by Lee Strobel)
 Coincidence, Jim, is just a word superstitious people use to describe complex events that in truth are the mathematically inevitable consequences of a primary cause.