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| ====== If God is omniscient and therefore knows who is going to be saved, why does he create people that are not going to be saved? ====== | |
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| I am not the only one that has had this theory but as far as I know I am the only one that frames it in this particular way. However, it's not a popular idea and could be considered heretical. Remember, while here on Earth, we don't see God's plan clearly ([[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2013%3A12&version=AMP|1 Corinthians 13:12]]), so this is just speculation that probably has no bearing on the truth, but it does help me understand some things better. | |
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| ===== Definition of omniscient ===== | |
| With respect to the Bible, the term "omniscient" means that God has perfect, that is complete and infinite, knowledge of all things. This includes all things past, present and future. | |
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| ===== Biblical passages for God's omnisicence ===== | |
| Arguments in the Bible for God's omniscience are: | |
| Old Testament | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2046%3A9-10&version=AMP|Isaiah 46:9-10]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2033%3A13&version=AMP|Psalm 33:13]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20139%3A1-6&version=AMP|Psalm 139:1-6]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20139%3A15-16&version=AMP|Psalm 139:15-16]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20147%3A5&version=AMP|Psalm 147:5]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings%208%3A39&version=AMP|1 Kings 8:39]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=job%2031%3A4&version=AMP|Job 31:4]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=job%2034%3A21&version=AMP|Job 34:21]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%2037%3A16&version=AMP|Job 37:16]] | |
| New Testament | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20john%203%3A20&version=AMP|1 John 3:20]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2010%3A29-30&version=AMP|Matthew 10:29-30]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%202%3A24&version=AMP|John 2:24]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2016%3A30&version=AMP|John 16:30]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%204%3A12-13&version=AMP|Hebrews 4:12-13]] | |
| * [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%201%3A25&version=AMP|1 Corinthians 1:25]] | |
| ===== My thoughts ===== | |
| So, there's no shortage of references in the Bible to God being omniscient and it's pretty specific and clear and therefore I do not argue against God's omniscience. I think he is omniscient. I think that omniscience, omnipotence and omnipresent are the very nature of God. I argue against the definition of omniscience. I believe God has perfect and complete knowledge of all things that are knowable. What things are knowable and more importantly, what things are unknowable? | |
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| There is a silly question that non-believers like to ask relating to God's omnipotence: If God is all powerful, can he make a rock so heavy that even he can't lift it? If the answer is yes, then God isn't all powerful because there is a rock that he can't lift and if the answer is no, then God isn't all powerful because he can't make such a rock. The problem with the question is that it is asking if God can do a logical impossibility. It's like saying can God make a married bachelor? The answer to this is that God can do all things that can be done. One could also say that God is omnipotent and therefore could create a reality in which things that we consider to be logical impossibilities were possible, but it wouldn't be this reality, and I doubt that we could understand it. But, in any case, we are dealing with this reality, so let's stick to that. | |
